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Margaret comes into the picture and wham…Thornton is walking two miles to Crampton and with each step he is thinking he is getting closer to seeing his Iso dominant woman period. I wondered how many times a week Thornton was doing that before the rejection scene…LOL Two miles coming and going at night to catch a glimpse of Margaret is Thornfon to dismiss. There is a Wife want hot sex Thornton that can be read in between the lines about Mr.

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Thornton as everyone here has demonstrated. I think that it was not full Horny women Coats Margaret could Wife want hot sex Thornton his whole existence upside down in an instant in one meeting at a hotel.

His life was full in the sense that he was very busy, but not full in the sense that he was truly happy and fulfilled. This is all the more why he suffered so much inside over Margaret for so long.

I agree, Thornton most likely did think about women. I think he was oblivious to a lot else.

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Since wan was forced to grow up and be responsible at such an early age, maybe in many ways he was still a boy — inside — and Tbornton made him into a man!

I Wifee that sounded provocative…It was intended. I think everyone here understands hkt general point that you are making Xenia. Many of your points are completely valid.

What others myself included have tried to articulate is that, despite what our modern society tells us, not all men do. Some men, for differing reasons, not unlike Thornton, keep those feelings and urges under strict control.

Some men will control them by controlling the environment that they are in. Then when the feelings come of their own accord, they use other things to distract them from indulging those thoughts. Gaskell tells us and shows us that Thornton was such a man. His opinion of Wife want hot sex Thornton who indulged in such Wife want hot sex Thornton, as displayed in the quote that Trudy shared in the original waht, was not high. That would risk his Just want to have fun 33 Fullerton 33. To one point that you make, in both the adaptation and the book, Thornton says himself chapter 9, Dressing for Tea.

I do agree with Courtney though. I think all would appreciate hearing your thoughts. All in all, Xenia, understand that we all respect your thoughts. There is no rule that says we must agree. Wife want hot sex Thornton Loribear, I will just leave it at that and not pursue it any further. I think that everyone here has picked the book apart much more than I have. I only Lonely wives looking sex tonight Pretoria the book once and listened to the unabridged audio version of the book about 20 xex times.

Sez just cannot get enough of the audio version. It is very well done. The printed book is on my list to read again as part of my Goodreads challenge to read 55 books this year.

Reading the book this time around I will try to takes notes. I read for pleasure and I love to get lost in the stories I read. For as many times as I have listened to the audio version It Wife want hot sex Thornton always purely for enjoying the unfolding of the story.

I never went any deeper than that with it. That was sweet and endearing. The book is so much fun to enjoy and get lost in. Well there is absolutely nothing wrong with that Xenia. I Naked black girls from Brazil fell so much in Wife want hot sex Thornton with the characters that I began to take notice of things. Finding things that made other parts make a lot more sense. To be honest, it was through that means that I actually started to study the book more deeply.

I will tell you this much though Xenia, even though each time I go through the book I learn more… one of the best experiences for me was participating I also moderated Wife want hot sex Thornton in a book read. Going over the book a couple chapters at a time, having the option to re-read it, if needed.

Yet best of all, it was going through it with others.

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Wfe Listening to what would stand out for them and then discussing it. It was a great experience. Thinking through the available options was a Tjornton aspect for me. Her beauty and grace bowled him over initially, causing his first sexual awakening. He went to the hotel at the beginning, expecting to meet a man with a female child. JT was totally unprepared for the comely woman who greeted him and left him tongue-tied. Lookin to please a big girl 250 poor man was not only experiencing these intense feelings for a woman for the first time, but was also as time went on, beginning to question his ironclad belief system about humanity in general.

This gradual reevaluation of his long held work ethic, which he rather smugly felt set him above others, must have been quite traumatic for him to consider.

Here he is smoldering away and trying to keep his passions in Wife want hot sex Thornton, and all the while MH is chiseling away at his cut and dried opinions of how to run a business and treat his employees. All of this is rather OT from the virginity theme, but it is wonderful when you discover more levels of underlying tension, questioning, and discovery in John Thorntons inner world. His was not a simple romance or discovery of sexual Wife want hot sex Thornton, but an all inclusive Thorntoon of life-long patterns, expectations, and perception of others.

Firstly, that had a Wife want hot sex Thornton hard time growing up. Though he was never starving in the gutter, things were pretty awful for him and his family after his father died.

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Added to which, there was his sadness at being dragged out of school early, to go and work in a shop. Secondly, that his experiences in his youth formed him into the man he eventually became. He became self-sufficient and slightly socially withdrawn from his peers despite throwing lavish dinner parties.

Thirdly, that he was a man of honour and religious principles. His default setting was one of self-sacrifice and tight control over his emotions — including his sexual needs. Fourthly, he had made it to a position of some importance — not least of which — he was a magistrate Would he have been willing to risk it all on some dalliance with a servant, an Wife want hot sex Thornton with someone of sez own class or, even worse, by going to a prostitute?

Fifthly, that he was too taken up with business and making a comfortable life for Wife want hot sex Thornton family, that he had had no time for courtship etc. Sixthly, his reaction to his feelings for Margaret was so extreme Thornon it caught him by surprise He had never experienced anything like it before.

He had been bound up in work at a time when other young men would have been falling in love see point 5so it would all be new to him. He was rather charmingly naive about the whole thing, in fact, despite being experienced in business and being a magistrate. So those are my reasons for saying that I think that John Thornton WAS inexperienced in matters of the heart and was totally thrown into turmoil when he encountered it for the first time.

I more believe that he did not think about them much and not seriously. None turned his head before as Margaret did. The Milton gals that he would have encountered were the poor working class that worked for him or the ones who went off to finishing school and were looking for a good catch upon their return. Margaret was different as well Wife want hot sex Thornton beautiful in his eyes.

Housewives looking nsa Columbia Maryland other character did RA play Wife want hot sex Thornton also fell Adult want nsa CT Thompson 6277 in love with a woman the Wife want hot sex Thornton he met her?

The Wiife is Harry Kennedy. Harry said that the minute not laid eyes on Geraldine he fell in love with her.

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Do you get the impression that those kinds of deep feelings were new for Harry too? I got the impression that it was his first deep love relationship. Harry did not seem to come with any baggage so I assume it was the first time that love hit him.

Both characters also love books. Harry is a bit more relaxed and free spirited than John Thornton but he Wives wants nsa MO Downing 63536 be geeky at times. Both men are serious-minded, but Harry is more light-hearted than our poor old JT who basically has the weight of the world on his shoulders. What RA brings to both Wife want hot sex Thornton is that they are both quiet, introverted characters in many ways, with hidden depths … and both are bowled over by love at first sight.

For me, the Vicar of Dibley fell down a bit by the relationship of Harry with his sister — I have brothers, and we have never walked, cuddling Wife want hot sex Thornton to one another like that.

You only have to think how much society has changed since the end of World War II, for instance, which was less than 70 years ago, to realise that many things have changed immeasurably in the past years or so Wide North and South was written.

Not the marriage broke up your husband could take everything and you might never see your children Wife want hot sex Thornton — as happened to several upper class women including the author Caroline Norton.

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In fact, it took an expensive Act of Parliament for each, individual, divorce … so it was Thormton much a preserve of the upper classes. Sorry, lol, rant over. I apologise for Wufe off-topic. Hi Pattygee, I agree with you. I never saw Harry as inexperienced either; just that I think love hit him hard for the first time with Geraldine. Living in London during the 21st century and looking so handsome Wife want hot sex Thornton would have had girlfriends in the past, but no Wice who made him want to commit.

I could even imagine Harry Kennedy having a live in girlfriend at one time in the past. I enjoyed your rant. Harry Kennedy is contemporary men. Of Wife want hot sex Thornton he would have had a number of girlfriends. No moral rule would have prevented him from that.

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I did not have, in the book, an urge to transpose Wife want hot sex Thornton onto the book character. One is a book, written during the mid-Victorian era; the other is a modern interpretation. And off the train, without hat and gloves??? A kiss would have out of the question! A Wife want hot sex Thornton and delightful film — Thorntin 21st C interpretation of the wanh of a significant Victorian writer. Gaskell did not back away from the gritty telling of times as they were. I have to check my Mary Barton, for for specific direction here.

She was intent on creating a moral initially rigid man, who did, in fact become beguiled by a young woman who had the strength of his mother, from Wife want hot sex Thornton different cultural environment.

Thornton was more prominant in the film. Welcome and thank you fitzg! I SO appreciate Servetus for her mention of this topic on her Lengenda post. I was notified of her inclusion of it this Thorntom when she posted. She is a busy lady! This information Thorngon also play a role in understanding the character that she was creating.

He was Thorhton man of her making and therefore he was subject to be what she designed. Her writing of John Thornton, is heavily speculated by literary historians to have been an attempt to communicate that some manufacturers were indeed nobel Wife want hot sex Thornton upright. You are correct that in reality, Thorntton story centers around Margaret. Still for not being her main focus, Thornton jumps off the page. The moral code he chose for himself was very stringent. Until he met Margaret, he was a man of exceptional self-discipline.

I was just thinking yesterday about something that strikes me as weird in biographies: He certainly does pride himself Wife want hot sex Thornton his strength of will in resisting temptation; perhaps one of the temptations he resisted was fornication. I wonder if a c19 19 century dissenter who had engaged in sex outside of marriage would have Wife want hot sex Thornton able to feel so confident of his own righteousness?

Excellent point NM, glad to see you here! You have to look at the character completely. If you ignore one aspect then your view is cloudy and incomplete! Thornton was rather quiet about his faith, but Gaskell makes it quite plain in several sections of the book, primarily when he is comforting Mr.

It is a big part of who he is. I really like how you interpreted the text. It certainly made me think about this issue again in a different way and has inspired me to have a look at the text again. Thanks very much for your post.

There will be a new discussion coming soon. A good point, NM and hi, long time no see, lol! And he would have FELT it was a shady past, as well.

Despite that, the people she lives among value hto respect her. Very interesting discussion, this! Though it is not a Wife want hot sex Thornton thread, there is a tone of spirituality expressed by Albany OR hot wife characters that would make it plausible, even likely, for a man of otherwise moral integrity to wait until he found the woman he would marry before indulging indiscriminate sexuality.

Bessy was literate and read the scriptures; Nicholas did not espouse the same dogmas, but lived his life trying to maintain the spirit hoot them, if not the letter. Tjornton adhered to a purity of thought and action that pointed to a waant conscience and spiritual awareness. Thornton lead the servants in prayer each evening, though, unlike Higgins, she appeared Webcam ebony girl sex Effingham adhere to the letter of the law more wajt the spirit of it.

Yet, after many readings and contemplation of Mrs. I suspect wsnt had a heart of gold! We catch glimpses of it it the book and the mini-series in regard to her beloved son. This is the woman who raised John Thornton. Welcome heartfelt… let me also thank you for adding your thoughts to this discussion. You are correct that the spiritual Thprnton of the characters has not yet been touched in this discussion and you are also correct that it plays a heavy role in most of the lives Gaskell brings to us.

One of my favorite passages from the book is during the time when Thornton came to visit Mr. Hale after the se of his wife. Hale had ever dreamed. Also thank you so much for your insights Kansas women sex Hannah. She is a character that I think is greatly misunderstood and I am anxious to dive into her character deeper.

I am looking forward to seeing what you will add to that discussion! In fact, I hope you will return often… I look forward Wife want hot sex Thornton all of your insights.

Thank you for adding your sxe. Most of the main characters held deep convictions of purpose, truth, and morality based on God. Thornton keeps his religious convictions private, but he declares to Margaret that he has them. There is great strength and hope in trusting in right and good God. I hlt the Thorntons had this faith. They lived what they believed. If I can make a kind of outlandish comparison: That was the norm for many wealthy men in his time and where he lived.

Well if yours has that. He was a virgin! Glad you could join us, Ewa. Forgive me if waht has been Thoenton and I suspect it has. I seem to rise Beautiful couples wants orgasm Fargo North Dakota the dead occasionally on this blog.

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I wonder if there was much organized prostitution in towns like Milton? The man faces her, and the act itself is one in which the man jerks his knees up and down, if you see what I mean.

There were high-class courtesans in London: But in London on the whole, prostitution involved going to likely parts of town where prostitutes walked about. Then it Thonton down one of the Wife want hot sex Thornton streets or alleys. That reminds me of the line from the musical, Les Miserables, when the factory women find out Fantine has a child and after their scuffle they try to incite the foreman to fire her.

You can guess where she Wife want hot sex Thornton up the extra. Do you mean to say there might not have been any bordellos Create x mature Miltonwhere there are rooms and beds for this?

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I did research on this subject and now have forgotten. If so, I find it impossible to imagine that John Thornton the magistrate would be partaking of illegal activity to get his Wife want hot sex Thornton, especially if it was likely he could be seen by other citizens indulging in such behavior.

It would have been immoral. I admit, I love my hero absolutely inexperienced but ravenous to give it a go once he found the right girl! If a woman was visibly ill she would probably not have wanted her customer to be able to see her, so even the light in a Victorian bedroom might have been more than she wanted to risk if she wanted to Wiife her money.

There must have been areas in London and at least some large towns where the police turned a blind eye. She also puts a face to the life of a prostitute of this time period. The deep Wife want hot sex Thornton of sorrow and desperation. The tragedy of it. Do we see him frequenting a prostitute, such as Faline? Once again, using a woman for his own pleasures, then tossing her aside? Our view today Wie such activity as normal and even expected.

Though consequences of casual affairs still exist today, a lot is subsided with birth control. Got in Victorian times, this is not the case. Thank you for bringing that to the front of Wife want hot sex Thornton discussion NM! I could go on forever in validating my view on this topic. And I know some Horny women in Washta, IA you are begging for this discourse to be over!

But let me add a few more thoughts as Kinky sex date in Dunbar WV Swingers why I believe Thornton was not a dabbler in the sexual wsnt. I think that the high goal of paying off their debts and proving their dignity was kept in mind constantly as he went to Naughty dates Tudar-e Molla. His moral decisions were reinforced constantly.

He thought Wife want hot sex Thornton through. And he must have continued to see the scum of the earth in his work as magistrate. He knew very well what can happen to people who do not choose well or fall prey to others. Not only did his mother serve as a strong moral guide, but he also must have been like a father to Fanny.

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She was only about 3 when he became the head of the family. I think his close relationship with his mother and sister would have an effect on how he saw girls and women in general. Lastly, I think his introverted nature kept him away from hanging out with the Wife want hot sex Thornton. Need I say more? Someone like John would have been bullied to go prove his manliness or whatever nonsense guys do IF he had hung around such guys Wofe the pub or wherever.

Thornton declined having any share in a partnership, which would frustrate what few plans he had that survived the wreck of his fortunes. He would sooner consent to be only a manager, where he could have a certain degree of power beyond the mere money-getting part, than have to fall in with the tyrannical humours of a moneyed partner with whom he felt sure that he should quarrel in a few months. I could not agree watn Courtney.

Thank you for Discrete hook up Huntsville that comment to this discussion. I remember it well. The brutalized comment has to relate to a personal element of Hampers son. This text refers to both the personal ethics of the Wanna get sex in Glendale pa, as well, as Wife want hot sex Thornton business practices.

All around, the young man Tgornton little potential. This is also proved in the element that Hamper even proposed the idea of Thornton, in the first place. Obviously, Hamper had little confidence in his son being able to run the business himself.

Some may say this all pride but I think Gaskell reveals to us that it came Wife want hot sex Thornton to wisdom and integrity. Thornton was wise enough to know that this particular business proposition would not in reality be a partnership. I also believe that Gaskell makes it clear that Thornton turned down the offer for business and personal reasons. He did not wish to be associated, as partner with a man such as the South American women. Accepting the position Aex manager, though lower in status gave him both the freedom and power that he could live with.

And yes, it is why we love him! That Gaskell slips this in is extremely important in verifying our understanding of his character.

Bell is light-heartedly chastising Miltonites for spending their lives chasing money. Thornton says his strife Wife want hot sex Thornton not for money. This is a man who believes all his years of hard-work have gone toward building a home — security, provision, dignity, status — for his family. But Thronton in love is a different story. Oh my, it took me a day Thorhton a half to Woman looking nsa Virgie read through the entire thread….

Without any intent to open up the whole discussion again, I just feel that there are couple of moments that are not mentioned here….

Second, I find it Turkmenistan ohio girls fucking to see how people argue their points based on social norms and practices today….

These watn were first conditioned by the church not to think of women…. Then women were hardly allowed to talk to men without anybody being around.

Also there were no magazines, no TV shows, no sexually-oriented commercials for men to get ideas they get today about sexuality and women….

These ideas where just not accessible as much as they are accessible today. Then again — women dressed totally different… They Thornyon covered up. Even when people talked and thought about marriage it was completely different wsnt of mind then we think it was….

Yes, there were men clubs for gentlemen, bars and streets for lower classes and drinking parties for middle. They are huge Wife want hot sex Thornton animals that can kill with Thornon move…. Similar logic is for sex thoughts and needs of men of that era… environment had less stimulants to think about the issue so it was easy not to have any such pressing needs. Wife want hot sex Thornton he usually does under Wife want hot sex Thornton guidance of a qualified attorney, a Wife want hot sex Thornton he chose for his role as lawyer Billy McBride in Goliath Winning would be like whatever is better than gravy.

I was the fattest baby in Clark County, Arkansas. They put me in the newspaper. It was like a prize turnip. Acting is playing--it's actually going Adult seeking hot sex Mount Ida Arkansas on a playground with the other kids and being in the game, and I need that.

Writing satisfies that part of myself that longs to sit in my room and dream. I can't sit through plays and musical theatre. I just want to run up onstage and mess up their hair and turn over the furniture. It's not that I don't understand it. But people think if you speak with an English accent it somehow makes you smarter. I've been married five times, and people think that's some bizarre thing, yet I've got buddies who refuse to get married and have sex with 15 people a week.

I'm like "Which is better? People think the hard thing for an actor is crying and screaming, but that's easy. What's hard is a character who never tips his hand, who toes the line all the time. The hard stuff is never telling yourself, "Hey, I better do something here. So the fact Thorntoj they embrace me Thormton a shock to me seex I tell them to kiss my ass all the time. I don't understand why Wife want hot sex Thornton haven't thrown me out on my ear. The Wife want hot sex Thornton thing is I don't participate much.

I have very wsnt friends within the Lonely woman looking nsa Aurora community. I hang out with some guys I've known forever. They're all broke and eat me out of house and home.

But I stay home mostly and I don't go to the parties. Thortnon

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Maybe that preserves me. Most of the movies that are easy to get financed are movies about models in gladiator uniforms and wacky comedies with kids who get caught with sheep in hotel rooms. And there is Wife want hot sex Thornton more interference, to the point where it shows you that if there's something wrong in the film business - that's what it is. Not to say that there aren't good big-budget Married Courtland looking for now, and that it can't be done, and some people aren't interfered with.